Thursday, May 2, 2019
Now with more bunnies
I currently have a buck, a doe, and the doe's litter of four adorable baby bunnies. It's been fun watching the babies grow and taking the buck to shows.
My rabbitry is called Red Arches Rabbitry.
Wednesday, July 5, 2017
Coturnix or Japanese quail statistics and numbers
Coturnix quail
Height: 8"
Can they be sexed by color: yes for certain colors like the wild type brown and Itallian (pictures of different varieties)
movie of chicks and adults: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UL18IIUTCHg
Eggs
Laying: once a day, April- September
How many quail eggs per chicken egg? About 6
Average size egg: .3 oz, size of chicken egg: 2.4 oz
How much light do they need to lay? 14 hrs
age they begin laying? 8 weeks
What is the variety called that lays blue eggs? Celadon
Meat
Best age for harvesting: 8 weeks - 8 months (younger is better)
Housing
How much room do quail need? 1 sq ft of space per bird
Cage height: 12" or over 4 feet. (So they don't hit their heads hard when startled.)
What do they eat? Insects, seeds, plants
What should I feed them? Turkey or Game bird starter. 25% protein
Nesting box size: 8"x8"
Dust bath size: shoe box or large dog bowl or cake pan size
Waters
Age for open bowl: any
Age for vertical nipples: 3 days
Age for horizontal nipples: 4 weeks
Hatching
Age of eggs to set: less than 7 days
Age of hen the egg came from: 10 weeks - 8 months
Age of cock: less than a year
Time to hatch: 17-18 days
Temperature in incubator: 99.5 degrees
a good guide to hatching:
Brooding
1 day - 2 weeks: in the house
2 weeks - in shed
3 weeks outside, still in brooder
4 weeks in adult cage
Heat: heat plate (watch this closely because they grow really fast and their height changes quickly. If they are huddled in the middle the plate is too high or too cool (if using a rheostat)
Friday, February 17, 2017
Chicken care coloring book
This page released under the Creative Commons License with Attribution. It is also available as a pdf.
If you need help folding it, these directions explain how better.
Thursday, December 22, 2016
Mareks, now what?
I had a hen that died from cocci with a secondary cause of death being mareks. This was diagnosed by the Veterinary Diagnostic clinic, so I'm inclined to accept their judgement.
Step 1: take a deep breath. Don't make any hasty decisions. If you are like me and only had one sick bird and the rest seem fine, you have time. If you have multiple birds sick, cull the sick ones.
Useful facts:
- There are several different variants of mareks
- It is present in the dander of infected birds and can travel for miles.
- You can carry the dander on your clothes and infect other birds.
- It can live for years in the soil
- It is safe to eat birds with Mareks
- Hens do not pass Mareks to their eggs
- The incubation process (in an incubator) kills Mareks
- There is a vaccine for certain strains. Vaccinated chicks need to not be exposed to Mareks for the first two weeks.
- You need special chemicals to kill Marek's. Just bleach or vinegar isn't going to do it.
- Certain breeds (silkies, polishes) are very susceptible.
- Quail can catch mareks. Turkeys have their own version that can be used as a vaccine for chickens. Ducks do not catch it.
What to do with current birds?
First, what should I do with my current birds?
- Cull
- Leave them alive
What about cleaning?
I'm no longer using the used bedding from my chickens in my garden. When I clean out the coop next year before I add new chicks, I will buy one of the cleaners like oxine (not sure if it has to be activated or not) or virkon that kills mareks.
What about the future?
Chicks
OK, so what about the spring. I like to have a few pullets so I get eggs over the winter.
- Buy birds older than 16-weeks. Older birds are less susceptible, but they can also introduce new diseases
- Create my own strain of chickens. Breed from hens that haven't died and raise chicks that are immune (this isn't a choice for me since I'm not allowed roosters)
- Use breeds that are less susceptible. Egyptian fayoumis and some strains of leghorns are immune. These breeds are flighty though and the fayoumis need to free range and like to fly.
- Buy eggs or chicks from a local petting zoo. If those chickens are still alive, they're probably immune to everything known to mankind. I called and they do not vaccinate, so it should be true immunity.
- Hatch eggs and vaccinate chicks myself. The vaccine is expensive and has to be shipped frozen. Once mixed up the batch has to be used with a few hours. It is possible to break the wafer into pieces so you can save part of the vaccine for later. The chicks need to not be exposed to Mareks for two weeks so the vaccine can take hold.
- Buy vaccinated chicks. The chicks need to not be exposed to Mareks for two weeks so the vaccine can take hold.
- Chicks must be kept isolated from Mareks for two weeks (so no broodies). The chicks also can't be housed near your other birds and also, not in the shed where you kept your sick chicken.
- The vaccine is leaky. What this means is that it keeps chickens from dying not from getting sick. This means they have Mareks, but don't die. It means they might keep shedding virus for a long time instead of dying. It also means that a very strong strain of Mareks might be passed on instead of killing all the chickens who caught it.
End of life / Extra birds
Marek's also complicates the extra hens / roosters issues. You cannot sell / giveaway /rehome any bird from your flock if you have Mareks. It isn't worth the risk to other flocks. So any bird that comes onto my property has to leave via the stewpot or proper burial.
A bird with Marek's is safe to eat. Eggs from your flock are safe to eat. Others could hatch those eggs as long as they understand the eggs must be incubated in an incubator.
Honestly, this is the part that bugs me the most. I was hoping to just sell my older hens as they got to the end of their laying, but now I will have to cull. I still haven't decided if it would be ethical to sell extra birds "for eating only" to someone who doesn't have chickens (Probably not, but maybe if I knew someone who would wack them right away it would be OK.)
When I first found out I had Mareks, I was very upset. Now I'm more hopeful. We'll see what the spring brings :)
Wednesday, November 9, 2016
Chicken breeds most and least susceptible to Marek's
Sunday, November 6, 2016
Dealing with Marek's
I recently had to put down an eighteen-month-old hen. She had diarrhea and wasn't eating. I separated her and treated her for coccidiosis, a disease that causes green diarrhea, but she didn't get better. After a week and a half, I put her down and took her to the Utah State University Veterinary diagnostic clinic. They quickly called me back and told me cocci, a very bad case. I felt bad and was surprised the Corid didn't treat it since I had done everything correctly. When I got the written report a week later, it had a second diagnosis. Cocci killed her, but she had Marek's as well, contributing to her death. Some forms of Marek's suppress the immune system making hens very vulnerable to cocci. She hadn't been vaccinated since I hatched her myself.
I felt some relief, putting her down had been the right choice, but now what? Did I have to put down my other hens too? After reading on-line, I came to the conclusion that it wouldn't help all that much. They were acting fine, so were probably resistant, but I had to consider them carriers. This meant I couldn't sell them next year as I had planned. Any chicken I brought on to my property could not leave. I would need to process them or allow them to die natural deaths.
I'm still dealing with what to do about new chicks. Here are some of my thoughts:
- All chicks I buy need to be vaccinated. They also have to be kept away from my older chickens for at least two weeks for the vaccine to make them resistant. This also means I can't use a broody to raise them.
- I cannot get silkies like I had planned. Bantam chicks can't be vaccinated. Also, Silkies are very susceptible to Marek's
- I could try hatching chicks from resistant lines. Marek's is not spread through the egg. There is a petting zoo / farm near us that sells hatching eggs. I could get eggs from there because I'm pretty sure those chickens are exposed to all kinds of stuff, and if they're still alive then they must have some resistance.
- I had put some of the used bedding in my garden to use as compost. I will remove as much as I can and not do that anymore to prevent build up of pathogens.
- In the spring, I will clean out the coop thoroughly with oxine or vikron-s before I get new chicks and again before I add the new hens in. Bleach is not effective against Marek's.
- I'm wondering about putting down cement pavers in the run so it would be easier to clean and disinfect.
Friday, June 3, 2016
Giving a broody chicks (grafting)
In my experience, a broody doesn't notice much. I can add chicks and she just sits there. My broody is a nice girl, though. If your broody is mean, night might be best so she doesn't attack. I put the chicks under her wings.
Yesterday when I tried giving my broody chicks, I had a problem. The chicks didn't know she was there mom, and it was warm enough in the coop that they didn't need to stay under her. They ran around exploring instead of sitting under her like good little chicks. I had to keep tucking the chicks under. Eventually, everyone got the memo and this morning momma took them all off the nest to eat. So broody is broken and operation add-a-chick was successful.
Monday, April 4, 2016
There's something white coming out of my hen's vent
I found one of my hens with something weird coming out of her vent. It turned out to be the outside of a soft shelled egg that had broken.
I am not an expert, but here's what I did for my hen (my hen is fairly tame):
1) I gave her a warm bath for about 10 minutes (I learned later it should be closer to 20). She liked the bath and just sat there.
1) I donned a glove and put ky jelly on a finger. I gently put the finger in my chicken's vent. Supposedly you want to feel in and up about 2 inches. I didn't feel anything, so I figured the egg was gone and there wasn't another one stuck. If I had felt something, I would have given her half a tums mixed in yogurt and another warm bath.
2) I put Preperation H on the glove finger and gently rubbed it on the inside of her vent. Straining can make things swell and hard to pass eggs.
3) I blow dried her so she wasn't wet.
4) I mixed half a tums with some yogurt and fed it to her. Soft shell eggs are harder to pass. I wanted to get her extra calcium so she could get some egg shells on those eggs. I also mixed in a drop of poli-vi-sol (no iron) to get her some extra vitamin D to help with calcium uptake. I also switched my layers off of all flock and put them on a regular layer pellet with 20% protein.
5) I stuck her in the (dry) bath tub (too lazy to get out the dog crate) for about an hour to keep an eye on her. She seemed to be acting normal.
6) I didn't keep her separate from the flock, but now I wish I had. It would have been easier to tell if she pooping normally. It also would have been easier to tell if she was still laying soft shelled eggs. (The next day, she laid another soft shelled egg in the run and all the other chickens ate it. I really don't want my other chickens learning eggs are full of egg.)
Wednesday, March 9, 2016
Mama Heating Pad attempt
- This post was very useful: http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/956958/mama-heating-pad-in-the-brooder-picture-heavy-update/2960#post_16594470
- The heating pad needs to be inside the frame
- I used a scrap of hardware cloth to make the frame.
- The back of the frame should be 2 inches and the front 4". I ran into problems with the plastic box (don't know what it's called) that attaches the cord to the heating pad. It's actually pretty big.
- I ended up with my frame 5" and 3". This was an issue because the chicks need to be able to touch their backs to the pad while laying down. I put a folded up hand towel inside.
- If you take a pillow case and cut it in half horizontally, half will cover the heating pad and half can be used to cover the wire enclosure.
- I used 3/4" wide elastic to make giant "rubber bands" to hold the pillowcase around the wire frame and heating pad. I used bungee cords to hold the heating pad to the wire frame.
Tuesday, March 1, 2016
Hatching eggs from Thanksgiving Point
What I learned this hatch: I really need a better thermometer. I tried with one of the probe meat thermometers from Wal-mart, but it just wasn't reliable enough. It had this cool feature where it would beep at a certain temperature, so I set it to beep if the incubator got too hot. It would decide it was hot randomly and beep while the other thermometers showed no temperature spike.
Egg turners are awesome. I got an egg turner and had much better results than I had without it.
Results: 10 eggs went into lock down. I had 6 chicks hatch: 2 leghorn, 3 buff orpingtons, and a mystery feather footed bantam. One of the orpingtons hatched on day 18. I was convinced I had run my incubator too hot and killed all the other eggs. Fortunately, on Saturday and Sunday I had more eggs hatch.
How long after the first egg with the other eggs hatch? Well in my case, more than 24 hours.
Tuesday, November 24, 2015
Small prebuilt coops - reality and work arounds
Preparation
- The hardware on the prebuilt coop was not adequate. While the nesting box had a lock, the doors didn't. To prevent raccoons and other predators from gaining access, I added those, along with latches to keep the roof and droppings tray from being opened. I like to use the catches from the leashes I bought from the dollar store. They are cheap and easy to use.
- More ventilation was needed. It had one little screened window. I used a drill and key hole saw to cut a hole in the other side of the coop and covered it with hardware cloth to provide more ventilation.
- Updating the roosts. The roosts were lower than the egg boxes. Moved one of the roosts up 12".
- Restaining. I performed the water bead test on the coop. Put a drop of water on the coop. If it soaks in, it isn't waterproof. I bought some stain from a local hardware store and repainted it.
- Adding additional run space. The hens and chicks looked a little crowded, so I added some additional space by building an extension under the external egg box. This gave them an extra 2 square feet of space.
The coop I bought had four access points: a door to the run, a door to the coop, the lid to the external nesting box, and the roof that opened. The roof that opened was not as useful as I had thought. It was hard to reach the bottom of the coop. There was only a single door to access the run. This meant if a chicken went under the coop, there wasn't any good way to reach it. I took out one of the hardware cloth panels under the coop and added another door.
Sunday, August 23, 2015
More hatching...and chicken math
Wednesday, April 22, 2015
Broody Hen Timeline
- Day 1-3 - Fluffy acting broody and sleeping in the nesting box. Gave her two fake eggs.
- Day 4 (at night) - put Fluffy in a cardboard box in a dog kennel with two fake eggs. She settled right in.
- Day 7 - gave her real hatching eggs
- Day 1-19 - sat on eggs. threw her off the nest once a day to run around and relieve herself.
- Day 19 - stopped taking fluffy off the nest
- Day 20 - two eggs hatched
- Day 21 - final egg hatched
- Day 1-3 - Fluffy still in hatching mode. She did cluck to chicks. I could hear the chicks, but saw no sign of them unless I lifted her up.
- Day 3 - Fluffy clucking to the chicks encouraging them to eat mash that I put in the nest.
- Day 4 - Fluffy took the chicks out of the nesting box to eat at the chick feeder.
- Week 2- Fluffy took the chicks out of their pen to go play outside. Chicks have about half their wing feathers and are getting tail feathers.
- Week 5 - chicks and Fluffy moved to box in run. Protected from big chickens by plastic fence.
- Week 7 - barrier removed so chicks and big chickens can mingle. Fluffy done caring for chicks.
- Day 52 (7 weeks 2 days) - Fluffy and chicks roosting in the coop.
- Week 11 - one chick started to crow. Rehomed
- Week 13 - chicks starting to bawk instead of peep. Chicks mostly hang out on a high perch we put up in the run. (The bigger chickens don't usually go up there.)
Wednesday, April 15, 2015
Easter egger odds (chicken genetics)
Saturday, March 28, 2015
Trying a broody
- Make sure she was really broody. I've read that the hen should sleep on the nesting box for three nights in a row to prove she is broody. Some other signs are sitting in the egg box and making a ticking noise when she's let out in the yard, then running back to her nest. She also might pull the feathers off her chest.
- Prepare her space. There is a lot of debate about whether you should move a broody. I don't have room in my coop and she was keeping other hens out of the nesting box. I got a 3 ft x 2 ft dog crate for her to be in and put it in the shed. I cut a hole in a small sized moving box from Lowes and filled it with pine shavings. The small sized box seems to be just right for a bantam broody. I cut a little hole in the box to fit the nipple from her horizontal waterer, so she could get water. I also put some of her fermented feed in the lid from a nutella jar and sprinkle scratch on top.
- Move the broody. After it was dark, I lifted her out of the nesting box and put her in the box I had prepared. Then I put the box in the kennel in the shed. I also put 2 wooden eggs in the box for her to sit on. I figured the sooner I moved her the better. That way, if she broke, she wouldn't have been sitting on real eggs.
- Find hatching eggs. This was way harder than I had thought. I wanted to time her hatch date to coincide with the days that my local farm store gets chicks, so I could see if she'd adopt a chick. This meant I had a few days to find eggs. But people don't return calls very quickly. My first and second sources of eggs ended up not working out, but I found someone who was advertising on KSL classifieds near me that had some. I only need four eggs, so I was able to get some that day.
- Give her the hatching eggs. I let the eggs I got sit large side up in an egg carton overnight. I debated whether to wash them or not (some were kind of dirty), but decided not too since the bottom of a chicken isn't that clean either. Since my kids wanted to help, I let each of them set an egg next to Fluffy (one at a time). I'd close the door to the shed and when I opened it again, the egg would be gone, tucked safely underneath.
- Throw the broody off the nest once a day. Fluffy is one of those chickens who will not get off the nest on her own. Once I realized this, I put water and food in the nest with her. Once a day, I take her off the nest and let her run around outside. Before I pick her up, I carefully spread her wings a little. She likes to keep eggs under there. Then I pull her out of the box and set her down outside and give her a little nudge to get her to stand up. She runs around for about 20 minutes, poops, then goes back to her eggs. The first few days, she went back to the nesting box where the eggs had been, but now she goes back to her new nest.
- Wait. This is the part I'm currently on. I plan to candle the eggs at 8 days and maybe 14 ( to check for bad eggs). The eggs should hatch sometime between 20-23 days.
Putting down a chicken
I began to suspect she had internal problems. She was our little chick that wouldn't grow and, at 9 months old, had never laid. Eventually she couldn't stand up. It was time to put her out of her misery.
The method I eventually chose was to use a killing cone and a sharp knife. A killing cone is a metal cone that restrains a chicken so that it can be killed. Since it was Sunday and I didn't want to go to the store, I made a cone out of a cardboard box. (One time use only). I clamped a piece of 2x4 to a ladder to suspend the killing cone from. I put a large garbage can with a trash bag in it under the killing cone. I put her in. I think she expired right then. To make sure she was dead, I cut her veins like you would for a meat chicken. I used a kitchen knife, but I learned it wasn't really sharp enough. Next time I'll use a filleting knife or a box cutter. Then I disposed of her body appropriately.
It was stressful, but I was glad she was out of her misery.
Thoughts on breeds - the current flock
Gold Sex-link - Amazing hen. We've gotten a medium / large brown egg from her every day (except 2) since she started to lay. She is friendly and even tempered.
Barred Rock - Curious and bossy. She's larger than the others. She lays a large / extra large light tan egg. She layed through the winter just fine. She lays about 4 times a week.
Silkie - She lays really well for about a month, then goes broody. She even layed in the winter. Oddly enough, she's top hen. She's gone broody 3 times since October. It takes about 5 days to break her. I just gave up on her and got her some eggs to hatch. If she'll hatch eggs and adopt chicks, then she'll be earning her keep.
Bantam Cochin - She didn't lay the entire winter. She's started laying again. She went broody once, but was easy to break. She'll also sit on my lap.
I had one chicken die, she just sort of faded over the winter. She never laid, so I think there was something wrong internally. She was sold to us as a sex link, but I think she was actually a wellsummer.
So, do I like my hens? Yes. I'm happy with all of them.
As I gradually replace hens in my flock, I'd get another gold sexlink. I wouldn't get the barred rock or the bantams again. The barred rock is big. The cochin bantam doesn't lay very consistently, but her eggs are adorable. I like her, but can't decide if I'd ever get another one. The not laying all winter put her on my naughty list. For the silkie, the jury is still out. She lays, but her broodiness is a little annoying.
I might be getting an easter egger to replace the chicken who died. We'll see how that goes.
Sunday, August 31, 2014
Dogs, Chickens, and the vet
Thursday my sister, her husband, and her dog came over. My brother-in-law wanted to let the dog out. I knew the chickens were locked up, so I said sure. The dog made a bee line for the chickens. I knew the dog couldn't get the chickens, the dog knew, but the chickens had missed the memo. They reacted as any bird would, jumping into flight. However, in their enclosed run, they hit the hardware cloth. I had three bleeding chickens and a sick heart.
I cleaned off the blood with wet q-tips and put the triple antibiotic cream on their wounds. Two had cut themselves right above the beak at the base of the comb. Betsy the barred rock wasn't so lucky. She had chipped the end off of her beak and was bleeding at the top of her beak. But she seemed OK. The next evening, her beak started bleeding again after she pecked at some hardboiled egg I had given them.
I decided to take her to Creekside Animal hospital. I don't know enough about chickens to know if it was serious or not. It was Saturday and they were closed Sunday and Monday (for Labor Day). I packed Betsy up in a Lowes medium sized moving box with bedding in the bottom. $80 later, I had a chicken with a fixed beak. We worked out that she must be worth about $18 a pound.
I don't regret taking her to the vet although I do wish I had asked some of my neighbors who had chickens, because I think at least one of them has fixed something like that before.
On the way there, my little four-year-old prayed that "Betsy wouldn't die and she wouldn't get eaten." After that, how could we not pay :)









